Here you go . . . a quick recap! Hookahs! And controversial Falk appointment Peter McKeever to the Capital Area Regional Planning Commission. The TiVo’s version . . . .
A. ROLL CALL
3 absences, but the clerk doesn’t repeat the answers and they didn’t announce any excused absences so I don’t know whoo they are, can’t see absences on camera either, perhaps it will become clear throughout the meeting.
1. Prayer/Inspirational Message – Supervisor Ferrell (Supervisor Gau next)
Olymipics coming up, some Dane County faces. Women’s Hockey has former badgers, no big money contracts, this is the pinnacle of the hockey world. Coached by Dane County native. Mentions others who were from Dane County. Talks about how world used to hold a truce when olympics were held. Talks about olympians being friends and compatriots. We’re all in this together.
2. Pledge of Allegiance – Supervisor Ferrell
B. SPECIAL MATTERS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS
1. Presentation of 25 Year Certificates to Dane County Employees ~ County Executive Kathleen Falk and County Board Chair, Scott McDonell
County Executive Kathleen Falk says one of favorite nights of the year. Thanks them for accepting pay cuts, talks about large range of things county employees do, 2500 employees. Several dozen who have spent 25 years doing that. Hears from citizens unsolicited who thank her for their work. Talks about neighborhood association who was thankful 911 operator who spent evenign talking with neighborhood group, a snow plow operator who backed up a hill to salt to help get people out of a ditch and a veteran thankful that they were helped to get services they need. Happens every day. They introduce Department Heads who introduce their employees. I apologize, I didn’t catch the names of the people being honored. Sheriff Department, Human Resource, Land and Water and 911 Center honored their employees who were present. Falk reads off names of over 20 others as well.
2. Res. 232, 09-10 – Congratulating the 2009 Waunakee Warriors Football Team
Supervisor Eileen Bruskewitz reads the resolution, team (including a young woman) and coach join her. Coach says thanks and introduces the players. Ripp speaks briefly.
3. Announcements
Chair Scott McDonell asks for some registrants to clear up their registration forms.
Kyle Richmond talks about being a public health worker in Haiti 20 years ago and asks for a moment of silence.
Paul Rusk announces gypsy moth spraying meeting, Feb 1, 7:00 at Sequoyia branch library. 45 proposed spray blocks covering 3,000 acres. Listed on the website. Can opt out, but they need to hear from you by February 19th.
Barbara Vedder (mic problems and has to come back, staff try to fix it)
Melanie Hampton introduced radio system operating agreement between local municipalities, thanks other Supervisors who worked on it and asks others to sign on.
Mike Willett also introducing a resolution on radio system, his has county paying 100% of operating and maintenance costs for infrastructure. Also asking for sponsors.
Patrick Miles says Planning and Development got a grant to connect Dane County growers and producers to buyers. Congratulates staff and introduced resolution to accept the grant.
Barbara Vedder, take two. Introducing resolution creating racial disparities in criminal justice committee. Had a task force because of reports that Dane County had some of the highest disparities in country, 80 recommendations, this is the implementation team to work on them. She invites others to sign on.
McDonell announces birthdays this month: Wheeler (2), Bruskewitz (14), Stoebig (24)
C. APPROVAL OF BILLS & ACCOUNTS
1. Claims Recommended for Approval
John Hendrick moves approval, seconded by Dennis O’Loughlin, no discussion, passes unanimously on a voice vote.
D. APPROVAL OF PROCEEDINGS – December 3 & 17, 2009
Duane Gau moves approval, seconded by Dave Wiganowsky (i.e. Wiggie), no discussion, passes unanimously on a voice vote.
G. REPORTS ON ZONING PETITIONS
a. Map of Dane County
b. Summary of Grant as Modified Petitions
1. Petition 10027 – Town of Deerfield – Ronald Dorshorst (Grant as Modified)
2. Petition 10072 – Town of Cross Plains – Carter Hudson LLC (Grant as Modified)
3. Petition 10102 – Town of Primrose – John Varda (Grant as Modified)
4. Petition 10118 – Town of Blue Mounds – Reini Straubhaar (Grant as Modified)
5. Petition 10122 – Town of Cross Plains – Gordon Lamberty (Grant)
6. Petition 10124 – Town of Mazomanie – Wolf Tr Est, Frank H (Grant as Modified)
7. Petition 10127 – Town of Blue Mounds – John Rustad (Grant)
8. Petition 10128 – Town of Christiana – Shirley Abel (Grant)
9. Petition 10129 – Town of Vienna – John Schuetz (Deny)
10. Petition 10132 – Town of Pleasant Springs – Roland Rein (Grant)
McDonnel announces there are speakers on number 3, 4 and 9 so those are separated.
Hendrick asks for separation on 1 and 2.
On the remaining items, they adopt the committee recommendation without discussion.
1. Petition 10027 – Town of Deerfield – Ronald Dorshorst (Grant as Modified)
Nick Ralaigh, purchasing property from uncle. In support and to answer questions. Points out that township has approved it, micromanaged through township. Had site visits with county as well.
2 others in support.
Hendrick says that he voted against in committee, outlines why opposition. Proposal is long oddly shaped way to enter the building site through a wood lot. Has to cross agricultural soils to get there. Page 22 amended town plan includes lanaguage that residential should not impact group 1 and 2 soils (prime agricultural) unless no area not classified as group 1 and 2. There are areas that are not prime soils. This was supposed to minimize impact, and this has a large impact. There was an argument this is between fields, but it is not. Describes alternate location. Violates several provisions of the plan. The purpose of our plan for years was agriculture land preservation and this doesn’t do that. There is an alternate and that is why he is voting against.
Jensen says that they had a site visit and talked extensivesly about this. Says photo not in the packet that shows where division of the two fields where driveway is going to go and it is not on boundary line between the sections, it goes along the swale and to a fence line covered by trees. Sorry map not in packet. It will cut across land currently being farmed.
McDonell suggests postpone until they can get the materials. He says he’s surprised they are debating it, wants to make sure they have the materials.
Bob Salov moves to table, Hendrick seconds.
Jensen prefers to refer to another meeting. Jensen moves to postpone, Bruskewitz second. No further discussion. Passes on a voice vote.
2. Petition 10072 – Town of Cross Plains – Carter Hudson LLC (Grant as Modified)
Miles moves to refer at request of petitions, Kurt Schlicht seconds. Passes on voice vote.
3. Petition 10102 – Town of Primrose – John Varda (Grant as Modified)
John Varda speaks to thanks staff and committee for assistance and patience and for helping work something out. House that qualifies to be agriculture land, driveway ended up longer than wanted.
Mary Varda also registered in support.
No discussion. Passes on voice vote.
4. Petition 10118 – Town of Blue Mounds – Reini Straubhaar (Grant as Modified)
No registrations, made a mistake in separating it. Passes on a voice vote.
9. Petition 10129 – Town of Vienna – John Schuetz (Deny)
3 registrants, only announce one in opposition, none wish to speak. No discussion. Motion to deny passes on a voice vote.
H. ORDINANCES
1. Ord. Amdt. 19, 09-10 – Amending Chapter 34, Creating an Exception to Prohibition of Smoking in Public Places for Tobacco Bars (Adopt Sub. 1/Adopt Sub. 1 with Amdt.)
Motion is adoption of sub. 1.
PUBLIC TESTIMONY
Scott Gregory police chief for Town of Madison, request approval. Prior to the Mediteranean Hookah Lounge, prior to this it was the Night City Night Club. Criminal activity, murder, liquor restrictions. A few years ago changed the venue, police calls dropped, unaware of the culture involved and is learning, if have questions, ask Mr. Hannah. Asking supervisors to provide an exemption to allow them remain in this location and to stay in business. Doesn’t want another night club due to criminal activity and strain on resources. 2005 44 calls, last year two. Less strain on officers.
Keith Hayward. Regular at the lounge, like Essen House, only place to go to smoke a hookah. Doesn’t smoke, was against smoking ban, friends smoked and when ban came, thinks it took away people’s rights. With Hookah Lounge that is why you go there.
Amanda Evanson in support. No smoker, enjoys smoking ban. Intent was to reduce second hand smoke for employees and patrons and to reduce smoking habits. Does however access to hookah smoking equipment is different, no smoked every day, special occasion. Exemptions across the country.
Pat Delaney in favor of exemption. Non-smoker. Went there for dinner, wasn’t even aware people smoking in the smoking section. You go through bigger clouds of smoke when walk past people to get into buildings. The smoke there was minimal.
William Trickomi? in support. Others can speak about culture. Long time hater of smoke. Talks about being a kid going to a bowling alley and how it made it so couldn’t stand smoke, sick for days. Have been going to this place for 2 years, not same experience. Has sat at tables with people and participated and it is a different experience. Not the same.
Tommy Hannah – Owner, it is a Hookah lounge, culturally based. Hookah rentals, Mediterranean food, belly dancing, its all tied in to one concept. This is Lebanese culture. Not new to this world, all over Europe, middle east and Africa it is done. 50% of his business went away with the smoking ban. It is on the south side, it is different and unique. As heard from chief, have improved that portion of the town. Proud to be there and have town behind them.
David Branley from town of Dunn, anti-smoking poster boy. When cigarette tax went up, nearly did a back flip at the age of 70. However, here to speak for the hoookah. The place is hard to find. Off Badger Road, horrible road, pot holes. Hookah smoke is clean. Don’t smell it on your clothes and hair. Cigarette smoke makes your clothes smell. Doesn’t smoke, sits with people who do. Like cigar bar, they don’t go there to drink, they go there for a cigar. The drink is secondary. When go to hookah lounge go to smoke, drink is secondary, hopefully food in between. Doesn’t smoke, that’s his choice, but its not offensive to him. Retired deputy sheriff for 30 years, can be offended easily.
Karen Darcy support. Resident of Town of Madison, got to know owners, attended meetings and events and brought colleagues here. Staunch non-smoker, surprised to find it was enjoyable. This provides a unique cultural experience.
Jess Bensen registered nurse and bartender there. Doesn’t smoke, its his choice. People come from all over to come there to use a hookah. Not as bad as cigarettes, its the way the water works, research backs that up.
Margaret Bosh? Her name is Mona when dancing at the Lounge. She is one of 8 dancers. They have dancing every Friday and Saturday and third Thursdays. She would never choose to put dancers where they would be harmed. She is a registered nurse. Enjoys being in the hookah environment. Good air filtration system. She also goes there as a patron, smokes a hookah, its a social thing. Not addicted to or have to do. Nicotine is far less, its what is naturally in tobacco instead of what is forced into cigarettes like the industry does. Social think like having a beer on Saturday afternoon on your patio. Supports the exemption.
Larry Edwards semi-retired pharmacist. Not a smoker, doesn’t like bars cuz of second hand smoke. Hookah is enjoyable place, don’t see or smell smoke, clothes don’t smell when get home. Pleasant experience. Part of reason for ban was second hand smoke, people now have a place to work or go to places who have smoke or not. Hookah’s is one of those choices, let the people decide. Let people who have this as part of the culture and tradition decide.
QUESTIONS OF SPEAKERS
Mark Opitz asks Hannah, asked if cigarette smoking has been going on. He says that yes, people have been smoking.
Opitz asks Mona about comment about not harming dancers. Was dancing going on when smoking going on at the bar. She says the hookah side never had cigarettes, only the “joe normal” side of the bar.
Tom Stoebig asks Hannah, talking about hookah smoking, substitute also allows pipe or cigar smoking as well.
Richmond says end of exemption talks about signage and heard some of people talk about second hand smoke, skeptical and wondering if people who come there if they see signage? Hannah says that if drive the beltline see large sign every day. If people know what a Hookah is they will know.
Richmond asks if any signage saying there is smoking. He says just the name itself, its the hookah lounge.
Dorothy Wheeler says that at Health and Human Needs committee asked about air filtration system and thought there wasn’t anything. Hannah says they had something for the cigarette smoke and they can also be used for hookah smoke. But, they do not bring the same sense of a cigarette, there is nothing there to see after smoke a hookah.
REGISRANTS
About 15 others registered in support.
QUESTIONS OF STAFF
Richmond asks about signage. Clear this is a unique business and no problem with people choosing to be there. Could corporation counsel or public health explain the signage language. Marsha says the question is 15% of income from selling tobacco products then needs the signage.
Robin Schmidt asks about uniqueness of the hookah, but why cigars? Cigarettes not permitted.
Chair McDonell says that this follows the state law. Our law is more restrictive which is legal. This would only apply to this establishment because had to be in existance when state law was passed. So can’t start a tobacco bar a year from now.
Schnidt asks if they could take out the cigar language.
No one seems to know.
DISCUSSION
Opitz says that this is not about if hookahs are safer than cigarettes, it isn’t. This is about second hand smoke. Those of us who voted for the workforce smoking ordinance voted for it because they believe second hand smoke is a health threat. Talks about World Health study, water pipe smokers and second hand smokers are at same risk as cigarette smokers. Scientific evidence is there. Others say can go there and not smell. He says that is even worse, people are going into environment and don’t even know at risk. Do we want to be one of the first counties to weaken the smoking ban? For public health reasons we should hold firm. Urges people to vote to oppose.
Carousel Bayrd has one concern, hookah bar is currently in violation and setting dangerous precedent. Not only saying ok to violate our law, but we’re going to sweep it under the rug. If this exemption existed when we passed the law it would have been different. There were months that went by before the ban went into effect and they should have sought the change then. We are going to reward someone for breaking our law and hopes you vote no.
Jeremy Levin says he worked with corporation to draft the sub to be consistent with state law. It was about level playing field, not patchwork of ordinances. Gives deference to opinion about violation. Passed HHN after ordinance went into effect, our body couldn’t control, it is an enforcement issue. In favor, business should have level playing field. There is only place affected. No new places can come in, could take out the extra language, but then have differences in laws.
Hampton says in support, makes our ordinance in line with city of Madison and state. This is the same order the city did things in. This is a complicated issue, the hookah tobacco bar didn’t get attention it deserves when passed the ban, Hannah worked hard during and wasn’t heard. State allows it, City did this after as well. This is only one business, this is a usual pattern. All states around us allow hookah lounges as well. Says this amendment is a demonstration of reasonableness.
Stoebig says he’ll support it, but issue with signage. The signs would say pipes and cigars allowed. How will he deal with customers that see signage and would like them to find language to make it more clear. If wishes to have more strict language it would be ok. Reads language to clarify concern. Are there standard signs? The signage language would contradict his business plan.
Corporation Council says language could be interpreted to say that if he doesn’t allow cigar and pipe smoking, he doesn’t have to provide that language.
Stoebig points out that a Hookah is a pipe.
Corporation Council points out the sign could say hookah pipe smoking allowed, that would be ok.
Sheila Stubbs thanks Hampton for her efforts, Hookah Lounge is in her district. Hear about so much negative in Town of Madison, good to hear something positive. When hear the Police Chief show up to support, finds it hard to believe we would go against that. Thanks Hannah for being here many times, not that some of us didn’t know there was smoking taking place. We’ve known since September. That’s unfair shot to point out there was smoking there tonight, if that concerned, could have called the police. Tonight we have to be good stewards. He employs 15 people, 2 full time and 13 part time. Since smoking ban 1 full time and 14 part time employees. Why would we want to close a business that encourages culture and diversity. Hannah has been fair with us, come to explain numerous time. Smoking is a choice. I choose not to and has asthma. Has been there, done a tour. Secluded area where smoked. Taken an extra step. Be good stewards of city, county and business. Many know how difficult it is at state to get an exemption. Why would we want to make it more difficult. Smoking is a choice, we have heard what the people have said. Professionals have spoke, representative of the area and asks you to support. Can walk away proud we made an exemption for one establishment. Want to continue to keep people employed. I don’t mind the exemption, but some of these arguments sound a little crazy to me. Seriously? Proud to make an exemption for one business. That’s not what folks are saying about the Edgewater – it is quite the opposite. And to make this about jobs, when we’re talking half a job is a bit disingenuous. How did 50% of his business go away due to the smoking ban and yet he only lost part of one job? Something smells, even if it isn’t the smoke.
Hendrick has an amendment. Is going to vote no anyways. Convinced by health affects, but if it does pass would like to move that they add language on line 25 “and cigars” and line 49 cross out “cigars and”. Seconded by Bayrd. Says that no one wants cigars smoked there, no one saying that, only business affected. This won’t create a patchwork situation. The Hookah Lounge will be allowed if this passes can have pipes not cigars.
No further discussion on the amendment, passes on a voice vote, some nos.
Dave deFelice says happy to support countywide smoking ban. We played an important role in shaping public opinion. Perhaps we were a bit behind because the public was crying out to ban smoking. When go to gas station, there to get gas. When go to food store, you get food. When you go to a Hookah Lounge, you go there for the hookah. No surprise this is what they are going to do, its their business, doesn’t agree with it, doesn’t smoke. No surprise when you walk in. Government has a role to play in protecting public health and there is a limit where government should act. If we go beyond that, now we are intruding. You have a right to do what makes them happy, even if it doesn’t make us happy. Stepping beyond limits that we should. Especially when exemption put in with state. We should not intrude and impact jobs in this economy. We should at least be neutral or supportive of job creation.
Wheeler voted against in committee. Research says smoke from hookah endangers peoples health. Thinks we should protect people and their health. Will vote no tonight.
Opitz offes and amendment. Line 51 add three words “smoking water pipes” to the list of dangers in the signage. Richmond seconds it.
Dennis O’Loughlin says they should be talking about Executive Committee recommendation and amendment. McDonell explains it has to be moved. O’Loughlin agrees with McDonell.
Stoebig says redundant and unnecessary. Urges to vote against.
ROLL CALL
Aye: Hendrick, Hulsey, Manning, Matano, Opitz, Richmond, Rusk, Schmidt, Vedder, Wheeler, Bayrd, Downing, Duranczyk, Erickson, McDonell
No: Ferrel, Gau, Hampton, Hesselbein, Jensen, Kostelic, Levin, Martz, Mles, O’Loughlin, Ripp, Salov, Schlicht, Solberg, Stoebig, Stubbs, Veldran, Wiggie, Willett, Bruskewitz, deFelice, DeSmidt.
Absent: None I guess they were just late.
15 ayes, 22 nos motion fails.
ROLL CALL ON AMENDED MOTION
Aye: Hendrick, Manning, Matano, Opitz, Richmond, Wheeler, Bayrd
No: Ferrel, Gau, Hampton, Hesselbein, Hulsey, Jensen, Kostelic, Levin, Martz, Miles, O’Loughlin, Ripp, Rusk, Salov, Schlicht, Schmidt, Solberg, Stoebig, Stubbs, Veder, Veldran, Wiggie, Willett, Bruskewitz, deFelice, DeSmidt, Downing, Duranczyk, Erickson, McDonell.
Passes 30 ayes, 7 no
2. Ord. Amdt. 35, 09-10 – Amending Chapter 82, Incorporating the Town of Black Earth Comprehensive Plan into the Dane County Comprehensive Plan (Adopt Sub. 1)
Hendrick speaks in favor and J.1. Planning process in Dane County involves each town doing a local plan then present it to the county and then we adopt it. Benefit to us because detail we did not put in. This recommendation is a little bit of a twist. They recommend everything except a couple sentences. There are a number of Town plans that take approach, if anything unclear, town only one to interpret plan and that will be final. County can’t adopt that into our plan. Puts us in the proper relationship. County plan interpreted by the county, town plan interpreted by the town. County still supposed to determine what our plan means, not the town.
Passes on a voice vote.
3. *Ord. Amdt. 39, 09-10 – Amending Chapter 82, Incorporating the Town of Cross Plains Comprehensive Plan into the Dane County Comprehensive Plan (Adopt)
Arnold Harris speaks, was here for something else. Celebratory not argumentative. Can’t imagine torture we went through in Town of Cross Plains to get a comprehensive plan. Little revolutions, almost equivalent of burning down the two taverns. Thanks staff. Says alot of people participated and learned how to plan. Voter up, of course!
Motion passes on voice vote.
4. *Ord. Amdt. 40, 09-10 – Amending Chapter 82, Incorporating the Town of Sun Prairie Comprehensive Plan into the Dane County Comprehensive Plan (Adopt)
Lyle Updike registered in support.
Motion passes on voice vote.
I. AWARD OF CONTRACTS
1. Res. 185, 09-10 – Authorizing Expenditures in Advance of Borrowing for Technology
Enhancements for Zoning System Solution (Adopt/Adopt Sub. 1)
Al Matano, Miles move and second sub 1. Passes on voice vote.
Main motion passes on voice vote.
2. *Res. 226, 09-10 – Award of Contract & Authorizing Capital Expenditure in Advance of Borrowing for PSC Center Infrastructure Upgrades in City-County Building (Adopt Sub. 1)
No discussion, passes on voice vote.
J. RESOLUTIONS
1. Res. 153, 09-10 – Amending the Town of Black Earth of Dane County Farmland Preservation Plan (Adopt/Adopt Sub. 1)
Hendrick, Matano move and second sub 1. Passes voice vote. Main motion passes voice vote.
2. *Res. 165, 09-10 – Amending the Town of Sun Prairie of Dane County Farmland Preservation Plan (Adopt)
Lyle Updike, Town Chair registered in support. Motion passes on voice vote.
3. *Res. 230, 09-10 – County Executive Appointments ( )
Executive Committee recommends adoption.
Constance Threinen support of Peter McKeever. Experience with law and land use as well as environmental manners. City of Monona board. Fair and honorable and no self interst in what happens on CARPC. Will add to experience. Interested in Regional Plan Commission and what happens.
Gary Werner has known Peter for years, worked with him in a number of capacities. Dedicated citizen doing public service for all of us in Dane County. Six years was a City of Monona Alder. Revived dormant economic development committee, got funding for a plan and got it passed. Heard he is against development, job creation and growth. Also suggested because of his spirited advocacy of environment he would have a conflict of interest. If understands it, that is what commission is supposed to do, protect the water quality. Finds it puzzling that conflict of interest for citizen representative but no conflict when Mayor serves on the committee and asks for something for his city, or town board chair or developer in the City of Madison serve on the commission. All vote on same kind of proposals. Urges you to support the nomination, but also understand, he too also questions type of growth or development, not against it, but against wasteful development, we cannot afford to keep using up land that we need to grow food so we can live a lifestyle where we need to drive a car everywhere to do soemthing. CARPC can help us as an overall community grow in a healthy sustainable way Its really pro good growth, not anti-growth that is the issue here. Thinks County Executive should have right to have her appointment based on her judgment.
Stefi Harris in support of Peter McKeever. You have letter from Dane County Villages Association. Issues raised are a red herring. Talk about him as an outlaw instead of outstanding citizen. Holds it against him becasue an attorney. attorney is a legal profession and they represent different interests at different times. CARPC said to be contentious, attends meeting and don’t see it being contentious. Seat empty since July. County Exectuive has right to appoint someone of her choosing.
PLEASE STAND BY . . . sorry . . . . tivo had a gap in recording. User error . . .
When I resumed, they were talking about postponement of this appointment.
Opitz says postponement in Executive Committee in December, heard questions raised like Cities and Villages concerns, ready to vote tonight.
Schmidt says postponed already once, shouldn’t keep him in a lurch.
Ronn Ferrell asks when next CARPC meeting is. Second Thursday of the month. Ferrell says postponement won’t matter.
Patrick Downing speaks against postponement. As Town Chair has made appointments. Question is are they qualified and that is all we are asked to consider. Hears rumbling from city and villages, but not given him anything in writing, didn’t show up to present a case and on top of all this, this is the county Exec appointment and they get to make their own appointments. Only question is qualification and we’ve had plenty of time tonight to talk, present and consider. Lets get on with it.
Gau says not intent to debate individual. Concerned about CARPC, wants postponement because concerned about relationship with villages and cities, heard about possible dissolution and that had him concerned.
Martz stands in confusion. [He said it!]. Hendrick and Bruskewitz says that there are discussions going on, not privy to them, don’t know if will come out positive or negative. If discusions going on and nothing to be gained or lost in two weeks, should let entities that have disagreements with each other, let them try to work it out.
Salov says he doesn’t have a copy of the letter, those around him don’t have the letter. Was ready to vote, now not.
McDonell says it would be the responsibility of the association to get the letter to them. McDonell says it was emailed to everyone on the county board.
Salov says that is not good enough for him. Would like the letter not discussed or have it distributed and have it be part of the record.
Hendrick says that postponement because Hendrick said discussions going on would be a bad idea. He said he disagrees with Bruskewitz about those discussions going on. She hopes they are going on, he does not hold that hope. He thinks postponement will emulate worst things that go on in Washington. In Washington you can have on Senator put a hold on an appointment but using a procedural motion. Shouldn’t use procedure. Would be obstruction if they hadn’t moved it. Postponement for their failure to provide a letter to us would be rewarding them for incompetence and perhaps malice on their part. If they are trying to obstruct our proceedings by raising vague questions that they only give effective copies to some people, we shouldn’t reward them by giving them what they want. If someone has a legitimate question, postponement ok.
Chuck Erickson says that vote on it tonight. Already postponed once. Obviously qualified, seat open since July. No reason to leave it open.
Bruskewitz says represents Waunakee and they are a member of the Association of Cities and Villages. She knows some background noise, not sure what going on. would like to talk to Village of Waunakee to find out what is going on. Wonders if everyone else talked to their towns and villages. Doesn’t see what problem. You can attribute manipulation to this motion to postpone, but she needs more information. Please don’t attribute anything else to her support of postponement, she just needs to check with village. Psst, you have a cell phone, don’t you?
Opitz says postponed in December, took that opportunity to speak to communities involved.
Gau can’t speak, third time.
No other discussion.
Motion fails.
Hulsey says McKeever has broad background, honorable public servant, should support him.
Matano, McKeever shouldn’t feel singled out. Application forms holy trinity with Kritine Euclid and Dick Wagner, three of the most qualified applicants to come before the board who have gotten no votes.
Jack Martz interrupts with point of order to find out if they are discussing letter no one has before them.
McDonell says no.
Matano says clearly Martz wasn’t listening so he’ll repeat himself. Clearly McKeever should be honored to be part of the holy trinity of qualified candidates that . . .
McDonell interrupts and tell hin to address the chair.
Matano says that Mr. Chair should know that he is pleased to vote for McKeever like Euclide and Wagner because all three have outstanding resumes, there is no conflict of interest in supporting environment.
Erickson says that in the City of Madison problem getting people to participate and this is one of those reasons. We have had the same problem When obviously qualified and drag them through this that might be why people are not interested.
Gau says that nothing to say negative about appointee, just wants body to realize trying to avoid Cities and Villages Association might want to disband. Doesn’t want to start something much bigger. Voting for that reason, not individual
ROLL CALL
Aye: Ferrell, Gau, Jensen, Martz, O’Laughlin, Ripp, Salov, Schllicht, Solberg, Wiggie, Willett, Bruskewitz
No: Hampton, Hendrick, Hesselbein, Hulsey, Kostelic, Levin, Manning, Matano, Miles, Opitz, Richmond, Rusk, Schmidt, Stoebig, Stubbs, Vedder, Veldran, Wheeler, Bayrd, deFelice, DeSmidt, Downing, Duranczyk, Erickson, McDonell
Absent: NONE
25 ayes, 12 nos, passes.
NOT DONE
Sorry, the last half hour will have to wait til tonight . . .
4. *Res. 231, 09-10 – Opposing Changes to the Recovery Zone Facility Bond Allocation ( )
K. ITEMS THAT REQUIRE A TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY FOR PASSAGE
1. *Ord. Amdt. 48, 09-10 – Amending Chapter 7, Regarding Personnel and Finance Committee
Recommendations on Compensation Package for Elected Officials (Adopt with Amdt.)
2. *Res. 96, 09-10 – Approving Lease with State of Wisconsin at Job Center (Adopt Sub. 1)
3. Res. 189, 09-10 – Awarding 2010 Professional Service Contracts Department of Human Services
(Adopt)
M. SUCH OTHER BUSINESS AS THE COUNTY BOARD IS AUTHORIZED TO CONDUCT BY LAW
N. ADJOURNMENT – Until Thursday, February 4, 2010, 7:00PM, Or Call of Chair
