Live Blog of the TIF for Edgewater

An attempted live blog of the meeting to determine process and procedure to expand the State St. TID #32 (think University Square) to include the Edgewater, since it currently isn’t in a TIF district.

Present: Gary Poulson (at large), Dean Brasser (City), Ed Norey (sp? – the city website says Roger Price) (MATC), Lucy Mathiak (School Board) and Dave Worzala.

Also Present: Staff (Joe Gromacki, Dan Rolfs, Ann Zellhoefer), Alder Maniaci

The nominate and elect Poulson chair. Worzala elected co-chair.

Approve minutes from January.

Poulson says normally not many public appearances, they want to consider how they would take it. Options include a separate meeting or just a single meeting with comment and presentation discussion and voting.

Joe Gromacki says timing is the issue. They normally meet at noon, if the meeting has a lot of testimony, it will go beyond the time line where the group meets. Alder Verveer would like it done in the evening, they suggest a larger room and they need to determine how many minutes people get to speak.

Brasser asks Wrozala and MATC rep when other TIF Review boards do. They say its all over the board.

Worzala asks if they are going to get an overview of the project, normally they get that at the organizational meeting. He says he’s like that before a separate meeting to vote. He’s surprised there is no overview today and says there should be public hearing at that meeting.

Gromacki reminds them this isn’t about the project, its the TID plan.

Worzala suggests that we need to do it soon in case they need additional meetings.

July 26th (I think that is what he said which they have a meeting, but that seems soon.) is public hearing at plan commission, council act on it on September 7th, after that, Joint Review Board sees plan adopted by council and then they act. So, they would vote after September 7th to look at the plan for the TID.

Brasser uses TID 23 as an example, they should meet before the council gets the resolution so they can have input so what goes to the council is in agreement with what this group wants.

Mathiak says that would be helpful to have overview and public comment before it goes to the Board of Education. MATC rep has the same issue, since they are directed by their boards on how to vote.

Gromacki asks about the presentation to MMSD staff, Mathiak says they still need to do that.

Mathiak says no more bumping the TIF discussion up so they don’t have to sit through the meeting since she had to wait to 2:50am to speak at the council meeting.

Worzala says that wait til after Plan Commission cuz they will have those materials. October 31st is the deadline for DOR, so that paperwork has to be in by then. Joint Review Board has to adopt within 30 days of when council adopts. Also says not unusual to hear the presentation before the common council acts.

Poulson asks if 5 minute speaking time, that is what council does for a “public hearing” they also do that at TPC.

Worzala says 5 minutes.

Maniaci argues they might want it to be less cuz the meeting could be longer.

Mathiak says that 3 minutes is what school board does.

Brasser says that they should do 3 minutes and they can extend the time if they feel someone merits it. (Nice, I guess just those that merit it get extensions, those deemed not to be worthy won’t get the extension.)

They decide to take testimony for 3 minutes and extend if merited. (Way to go city reps, thanks for limiting input, you do us proud!)

They discuss dates. Conflicts with teaching, concerts on the square, various meetings members have to attend. They decide on August 12th.

Mathiak says she wants to make sure people state where they live. Wants the chair to announce it.

Manaici asks if they need anything from her.

Poulson says rare occasion that alders show up for our meetings. (And he should have said that they are not ex officio members and don’t sit at the table since this is a statuatory committee not a city committee.)

Worzala says that only seen a map, no project plan so he doesn’t know what his questions are.

Mathiak asks for the street addresses of those exceptions.

Jokes . . . actually, pretty funny jokes about the DVD set.

No public comment.

Adjourn.

Some discussion about when the public comment is, before or after the discussion.