Takin’ Sides on Immigration

Blaska announced on Friday he is taking sides. He attempts to define “the other side”, so lets take a peak. What side would you choose?

BLASKA’S SIDE
On his side:
Blathering Blaska.
Sheriff David Mahoney, “a mainstream Democrat”.
County Board Supervisor and Madison Police Officer Melanie Hampton.
Thuy Pham-Remmele?
Jed Sanborn?
Michael Schumacher?
Joe Claussius?
Madison.com anonymous commenters
Lori Groskreutz of Whitehall Drive.
Mr. Martin on Dixie Lane.
Norman Sannes of Queensbridge Road.
Lars Svanoe of Painted Post Drive, Madison

When I was an alder, one of the last four once sent me an email I had to consider a threat to my safety.

I’m surprised he didn’t add Dorothy Borchardt to the list. And I wonder where the Dane County Public Affairs Council is on this matter?

Blaska did an open records request to get the emails and contacts the alders were recieving. I requested that same information be sent to me as well, but apparently that awesome Lisa Veldran in the Council Office couldn’t manage to find the time to hit the send button and I have to wait, so I can’t tell you what he reviewed, but I can tell you here’s a few gems the council members have been receiving. [NOTE: Veldran claims to have sent it to me on Friday at 2:34. I didn’t get it. At 7:30 this morning she also said she’d forward it. I did not get it. Maybe there is something wrong on her end of things, since I got the email that said she was sending it.]

“Open Letter”

Your recent “demand” made on Dane County Sheriff Dave Mahoney see Fox News, this date is not only a clear usurpation of sovereign authority possessed by a separate and distant jurisdiction, but it is likewise a clear demonstration that your body, and we must think the constituents you pretend to represent, favor human trafficking, drug smuggling, murder, rape, destruction of private property, aggression against the duly constituted authorities of that jurisdiction, and a display of hostility towards all the lawful citizens of Arizona.

You have disgraced yourselves and your city beyond any hope of recovery. You have demonstrated your willingness to contribute to an atmosphere leading to civil strife civil war for those of you who are incapable of seeing beyond your own noses for the sake of nothing more than petty political partizanship.

Resignation is your only responsible option.

“Fools”

Only a bunch of fools that have never directly experienced mass mexican illegal immigration could have voted such a STUPID resolution into effect. You are a bunch of uneducated buffoons with no direct or true experience of the devastation these low IQ cross border migrants bring on the states they leech onto. Many of them are actively seeking to supplant and invade the historical white culture of America and supplant it with their own, some even bold enough to say it outloud. By encouraging the intermingling of the races, deigned by nature and God to be different, you oppose the very will of God Himself.

“Morons in Office”

I as a Wisconsin Native I am appalled by your direction too the sheriff on illegals. So my board of directors decided too hire 6 charter buses to deliver to each council members home a full bus of illegals. They should arrive within the next 14 days or so. As long as you morons dont feel immigration is a problem,lets see if you change your mind when these rapists dope dealers, murderers are dumped on your front lawns. GOOD LUCK!!!! You can have them in your neighborhoods for a change. This is worth every penny to us. See how your kids like it, when they cant play in their yards! FYI law enforcement takes an oath to uphold the law !!!! Dropping these people in your front yards is no joke. I would hire security if i were you. We had too!!!! No need to respond we will watch it on the news!

THE OTHER SIDE
On the other side as defined by Blaska:
Brenda Konkel, Progressive Dane/Green Party [yes, I left out the rest of his description of me].
Former Madison Police Captain Luis Yudice
Ramona Natera
Alder Shiva Bidar Sielaff
Rabbi Renee Bauer
County Board Supervisor Dianne Hesselbein.
(And absent Immigration Task Force Member Jonathan Hawkins)
The Common Council (unanimously, with Claussius, Pham-Remmele, Sanborm, Solomon and Schumacher absent).
Janet Parker, “of the Linda and Gene Farley Center for Peace, Justice & Sustainability, Springdale”.
Kelsey Foster, “who described herself as a B.A. Candidate, University of Wisconsin-Madison, Gender & Women’s Studies, LGBT Studies”.
“Operation Welcome Home/Take Back the Land [deleted] activist Z! Haukeness”
“[Deleted] supporter Dace Zeps of the Darbo-Worthington neighborhood”
“Jim Cavanaugh of South Central Federation of Labor”
“Kaleem Caire, President & CEO, Urban League of Greater Madison”
“Sal Carranza, president of Latinos United for Change and Advancement”

The put-downs and spin he used for the supporters were pure Blaska, twisted and half-truthful. And its curious who he picked out to represent the folks he finds reprehensible. I left out some of those words that spin us as radical crazies and misrepresent their positions. And I gotta wonder, why am I the leader of the list when all I did was blog about the issue? Why didn’t he use co-sponsor Mayor Dave Cieslewicz? Finally, I laughed when he described an email as coming from the “organized illegal immigrant lobby”. Hilarious, I bet they’re dumping in AT&T or Edgewater level kind of money, eh? It’ funny when they organize, its just upset taxpayers who magically come together on their own. Right.

WHO’S SIDE ARE YOU ON?
If you choose to choose a side, as defined by Blaska, which would it be?

26 COMMENTS

  1. I support Sheriff Mahoney enforcing the law. The Council and the Board’s opinion is irrelevant to that. I also support immigration reform. If immegration law is unfair or unjust lets change that. Disregarding the law only makes it worse.

  2. Like Marj Passman, I’m on the side of my immigrant grandparents, who got off a boat from Ireland and were able to enjoy all the benefits of citizenship, including the right to vote, the very next day. Can we even imagine an America as humane as the America of the 1920’s?

  3. Effective policing of any community is greatly enhanced by having the active cooperation of that community. That’s why I am involved in a neighborhood watch, in cooperation with local police. Would I do it if I felt myself at risk of being sent back to Germany?

  4. We need comprehensive immigration reform, as Obama suggests. Racial profiling is not the answer.
    Imagine if the native americans had the guns and resources to fight for their land and turn away “immigrants” – none of us would not be on this soil today.
    These anti-illegals need to start directing their hatred toward the corporations who lobby to prevent illegal immigration reform; not the illegal immigrants.

  5. It amazes me that the libs conflate illegal immigration into just plain immigration. I still have the document granting citizenship to my great-great grandparents and no, Steve, your grandparents did not just get off the boat and vote the next day. It does not work like that. And Mr. Hummel, why would you be sent back to Germany? (Helen Thomas not withstanding.) You’re here legally, right?

    Two weekends ago I attended a neighborhood party of a young lady who had achieved citizenship. She was so proud. Was she a fool?

    Yes to immigration reform.

  6. I think those in favor of strict enforcement of our immigration laws would be very upset if all the workers here illegally or marginally legally (on a visa, but working illegally) suddenly disappeared. Business owners know this, so have stayed strangely silent.

    You would be surprised by who is keeping the our businesses running.

    Like the dairy industry in Wisconsin? Perhaps Mr. Blaska should check out other sections of the Isthmus.

  7. C’mon, Dave. You know the immigration policy is, and most always has been racist. I’m of Jewish, Scots, Irish, and English ancestry. The Jews and the Scots-Irish had a terrible time getting here. Many, many people in their families didn’t make it here. There were these little things called “immigration quotas,” see. Didn’t want any more of “those sort” in this country. The English? No problem.

    It’s always been to the advantage of certain interests to create and use racial distinctions in order to maintain a captive, disadvantaged labor force in the U.S., in order to undermine wages and job security for the supposedly “free” labor force. In order to do that, they promote the criminalization of undocumented immigrants (“illegal,” see?). You’re participating in that, Dave. Sad.

    Luckily, you’re in the minority in Wisconsin, just as you would have been in the minority here some 150 years ago (“But Ben,” I can hear the 1850s Blaska say, “those men are fugitives from service; let them buy their freedom and come to Wisconsin legally; until then, they are just illegals and must be sent back across the border.”)

  8. FOM. It’s not rocket science–deprive any group of the right to everyday police services by making its members afraid to complain, and you will get more unreported crime, fear, substandard working conditions, all the abuses that makes the whole community less livable. Every human being is entitled to just and humane treatment, regardless of citizenship, and that includes the protection of law.

  9. “The Jews and the Scots-Irish had a terrible time getting here.”

    So, how is it that there are so many of them?

    Yes, Robbie, foreign nationals are milking a lot of cows in Wisconsin — that was true in my extended family’s farm operations, as well. (Bulgarians and Japanese, as well.) As far as could be determined, they were all here legally.

    Every nation in the world has immigration quotas — Mexico especially. The idea is to govern a nation’s ability to absorb new population and to exclude terrorists and criminals.

    Ben, have some self-respect for yourself: lay off the “racism explains everything” tack; that is intellectually lazy.

    Now, I got to quit driving traffic to this post. Come on over to Stately Blaska Manor. http://www.thedailypage.com/blaska/

  10. SHERIFF MAHONEY IS JUST A RACIST LIKE SHERIFF JOE IN ARZIONA. THESE ARE UNDOCTUMENTED WORKWERS.
    THESE KIND OF LAWS HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER 2 HUNDRED YEARS. THIS IS THE SAME TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT WAS USED BY SOUTHERN STATES AND NORTHERN STATES TO HUNT5 DOWN RUNAWAY SLAVES AND RETURN THEM TO THEIR MASTERS. IT WAS FEDERAL LAW AND LAW ENFORCEMENT ALL OVER THE COUNTRY CLAIMED THEY HAD TO DO IT, JUST LIKE SHERIFF MAHONEY. OF COURCE THE SHERIF GETS GOOD MONEY FOR DOING THE FED’S DIRTY WORK. WHERE ARE LIST OF PEOPLE HE HAS TURNED OVER TO ICE AND MUCH MONEY HE HAS RECEIVED? DIDN’T THE COUNTY BOARD ORDER THE SHERIFF NOT TO DO IT EXCEPT IN CASES WHERE UNDOCTUMENTED PERSON WAS A CONVICTED CRIMINAL?

  11. I’m for justice and equality and public safety and therefore I do not support the Sheriff’s policy because it divides our community and significantly impairs law enforcement’s relationships and communication with the immigrant community. This not only endangers the immigrant community, communities of color and victims of domestic violence, it makes all of us less secure. It would be nice if those taking the Sheriff’s side could get acquainted with the facts so we could possibly have a meaningful discussion.

  12. I’d like to see the immigration debate consider the effects of US foreign policy on immigration, legal and illegal. In the 80’s, 1/10 of the population of El Salvador ended up in the US because of US policy in El Salvador, making it hard for people there to survive. After the Vietnam war, we got a lot of immigrants from Southeast Asia who wouldn’t have had to flee over here if not for US policy over there.
    In the 90’s, Clinton instated NAFTA, and a result is that millions of Mexicans lost their farming livelihoods. I think that has a lot to do with the increase in illegal immigration from Mexico. By now it might not be possible to get those farms back, but at least, let’s think about how NOT to destroy the subsistence economies or endanger the lives of people in other countries, then get upset when they come here to get away from there.
    Since we have a lot of Mexican immigrants here, I’d much prefer they be able to get driver licenses than that they drive without licenses, and I’d much prefer that they be able to report crimes to the police, or testify in investigations, than that they be afraid to report or testify. It’s a matter of public safety.

  13. Yes, many colonies allowed immigrants to vote prior to Independence, there being no standard naturalization system. Some states allowed aliens to vote in state elections. The practice declined greatly at about the time of the War of 1812. The Northwest Ordinance required citizenship, or residency for three years plus property ownership. The 1848 Wisconsin Constitution citizenship or a declaration of the intent to become a citizen.

  14. I support enforcing the laws and Sheriff mahoney reporting those breaking the laws should be IDed just like any legal resident would be required to do. If they R not “legals” report it to ICE. I also think we should adopt laws on legal immigration and illeagal entry as strict as Mexico.

  15. Racial discrimination and profiling are the type of harassment that Dave Blaska is advocating. If it becomes a crime to not have papers providing your immigration status in Madison, as is about to happen in Arizona, my 91 year old mother had better keep silent around authority figures – she still has a strong accent after 58 years of living in the U.S. I am not too worried though because she has cute pink and white skin.

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